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Home » Multimedia » Podcasts » Food Safety Matters » Ep. 14. Hal King: “That looks really clean, but it’s not”

Food Safety Matters

Food Safety Matters is a podcast for food safety professionals hosted by the Food Safety Magazine editorial team – the leading media brand in food safety for over 20 years. Each episode will feature a conversation with a food safety professional sharing their experiences and insights of the important job of safeguarding the world’s food supply.

New episodes are posted twice a month.

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Ep. 14. Hal King: “That looks really clean, but it’s not”

Dr. Hal King is the founder and CEO of Public Health Innovations, an ideation technology and consulting business. 

Hal is a public health professional who has worked in the investigation of foodborne and other disease outbreaks with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). He has also performed funded research on causation of diseases at Emory University.

Hal has worked in the prevention of intentional adulteration of foods for U.S. Army Reserves Consequence Management Unit, then on the design and implementation of preventative controls for food safety hazards in the food industry while serving as director of food and product safety at Chick-fil-A.

Hal is past chairman of the National Restaurant Association Quality Assurance Executive Study Group, past board member of the National Council of Chain Restaurants and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and CDC Industry Partnerships, and past President of the Georgia Association for Food Protection an affiliate of the International Association of Food Protection.

Hal’s company, Public Health Innovations developed The Food Safety Lab, a website that facilitates open access to best practices in food safety for the food industry.  

He is the co-author and author of several food safety articles including numerous peer-reviewed research publications on the science of food safety and public health, holds several U.S. Patents and Patent Pending technologies. He has also authored several books including:
Food Safety Management: Implementing a Food Safety Program in a Food Retail Business and Hazard Analysis and Risk-Based Preventive Controls Improving Food Safety in Human Food Manufacturing for Food Businesses

He is now writing a new book to help the industry ensure food safety in restaurant operations called Active Managerial Control: Implementing Food Safety Management Systems in a Retail Food Service Business.

 

In this episode of Food Safety Matters, we speak to Hal King about:

  • How to design a food safety management system that can enable control of risk factors that contribute to foodborne illness
  • His time at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and how it helped him to understand food safety management
  • How and where food safety hazards occur in the restaurant environment
  • Turnover in the foodservice industry, and how it can be a setback in terms of food safety
  • How health inspections work and the important role they play in food safety
  • HACCP in a restaurant environment vs. in a food manufacturing facility
  • Food hazards that get the most--and least--attention at the restaurant level
  • Why some restaurant chains are reluctant to implement daily monitoring and other food safety systems
  • The top food safety challenge facing restaurants today 
  • How spending $10,000 on food safety could potentially save millions in preventing a recall, outbreak, etc.
  • How consumers' perceptions of food safety have shifted, according to multiple studies
  • Industry vs. consumers: Who bears responsibility when it comes to handling and preparing foods at home?
  • Educational and career advice for young professionals interested in a food safety career

Hal King's Articles Published in Food Safety Magazine:
The Supply Chain and Food Safety Culture: Foodservice
Is It Time for a "Kill Step" for Pathogens on Produce at Retail?
Implementing Active Managerial Control Principles in a Retail Food Business
Hazard Analysis and Risk-based Preventive Controls (HARPC): The New GMP for Food Manufacturing
Food Defense Perspectives within a Food Protection Landscape: An Invitation to All Stakeholders

Related Content and Resources:
The Key to a Successful Career in the Food Safety Profession
 

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Delta Joins American Airlines in Suspending Use of LAX Kitchen to Listeria
Sonny Perdue's reorganization of USDA on New Food Economy
FDA Releases Small Entity Compliance Guide for the FSMA Sanitary Transportation of Human Food and Animal Food Final Rule

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Ep. 213. Richard Stier: Driving Continuous Improvement in Food Safety and Sanitation

Richard (Rick) Stier, M.S. is a consulting food scientist who has helped food processors develop safety, quality, and sanitation programs. He believes in emphasizing the importance of how these programs can help companies increase profits. Rick comes from a family background in food science, with the Institute of Food Technologists (IFT) establishing an award in his mother's name—the Humanitarian Award for Service to the Science of Food in honor of Elizabeth Fleming Stier. Rick holds degrees in food science from Rutgers University and the University of California at Davis. He is also a member of the Editorial Advisory Board of Food Safety Magazine.

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Ep. 212. Dr. Claire Sand: The Future of Food Packaging and Chemicals of Concern

Claire Sand, Ph.D. is a global packaging leader with 40 years of experience in food science and packaging. As founder of Packaging Technology and Research LLC, her mission is to enable a more sustainable food system by advancing innovations that extend food shelf life and reduce waste.

Dr. Sand specializes in leading cross-functional teams, developing technology strategies, and creating implementation roadmaps for complex packaging challenges across the value chain. With over 150 publications to her credit, she is a regular contributor to leading food science and packaging publications and has held adjunct faculty positions at Michigan State University and California Polytechnic State University.

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Ep. 211. Kathy Sanzo: The Implications of FDA’s Synthetic Food Dye Phase-Out

Kathleen Sanzo, J.D. is Co-Chair of Morgan Lewis' life sciences industry team. She centers her practice on regulatory and compliance issues connected to U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-regulated products. She leads and counsels clients on all legal and regulatory issues concerning food, dietary supplements, and cosmetic product manufacture, approval, marketing, and distribution; food, drug, and device compliance and enforcement matters; and consumer product issues regulated by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and state enforcement agencies, among other areas. A frequent author and co-author on publications related to FDA matters, Kathleen regularly speaks on these issues at industry events. She serves as Vice Chair of the Consumer Product Regulation Committee of the American Bar Association Section of Administrative Law and Regulatory Practice, and is a member of the Food and Drug Law Institute's Medical Products Committee.

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Ep. 210. Campbell Mitchell: Executive Leadership in Food Safety on a Global Scale

Campbell Mitchell, M.B.A. is Head of Food Safety and Compliance for Kraft Heinz North America. He has more than 30 years of international experience in food safety, quality management, and risk mitigation. Prior to joining Kraft Heinz, Campbell served as Vice President of Quality and Safety at Fairlife LLC, a $4-billion Coca-Cola-owned dairy brand. He has also held senior leadership roles with Kerry Group and Almarai in the Middle East. Additionally, he founded a consultancy that supported Tiger Brands in Africa.

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Ep. 209. Helena Bottemiller Evich: The MAHA Effect on American Food Policy

Helena Bottemiller Evich is the Founder and Editor-in-Chief of Food Fix. She previously led coverage of food and agriculture at POLITICO for nearly a decade, winning numerous awards for her work, including a prestigious George Polk Award for a series on climate change and two James Beard Awards for features on nutrition and science. In 2022, she was a James Beard Award finalist for a deep dive on diet-related diseases and COVID-19. Helena is also a sought-after speaker and commentator on food issues, appearing on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, BBC, NPR, and other outlets. Her work is widely cited in the media and has also been published in the Columbia Journalism Review and on NBC News.

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Yiannas, McDonald, Besser, Hedberg: Fixing the Outbreak Investigation System

Frank Yiannas, M.P.H. is a renowned food safety leader and executive, food system futurist, author, professor, past president of the International Association of Food Protection (IAFP), and advocate for consumers. Most recently, he served under two different administrations as the Deputy Commissioner for Food Policy and Response at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), a position he held from 2018–2023, after spending 30 years in leadership roles with Walmart and the Walt Disney Company.

Drew McDonald is the Senior Vice President of Quality and Food Safety at Taylor Fresh Foods in Salinas, California, where he oversees the quality and food safety programs across the foodservice, retail, and deli operations under both FDA and U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) jurisdictions. Mr. McDonald works with an impressive team developing and managing appropriate and practical quality and food safety programs for fresh food and produce products. He has more than 30 years of experience in fresh produce and fresh foods.

John Besser, Ph.D. worked for ten years as Deputy Chief of the Enteric Diseases Laboratory Branch at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), where he was involved in national and global programs to detect, characterize, and track gastrointestinal diseases. Prior to CDC, Dr. Besser led the infectious disease laboratory at the Minnesota Department of Health (MDH) for 19 years and served as a clinical microbiologist at the University of Minnesota Hospital for five years. He currently works as an independent contractor and consultant. Dr. Besser is the author or co-author of more than 70 publications. He received his Ph.D. and M.S. degree from the University of Minnesota.

Craig Hedberg, Ph.D. is a Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences at the University of Minnesota and Co-Director of the Minnesota Integrated Food Safety Center of Excellence. He promotes public health surveillance as a prerequisite for effective food control, and his work focuses on improving methods for collaboration among public health and regulatory agencies, academic researchers, and industry to improve foodborne illness surveillance and outbreak investigations.

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